The only smearing is that of GAPKI on parts that need the grease when they say turn around and this won't hurt. The rape of a nation in a smoke filled room.
Who is campaigning against palm oil? I think peoples are campaigning against palm oil companies' greediness that always want to expand their business only with matches. Time to bring these companies to court.
Smear campaign? Bollocks. There is no one to blame but yourselves for the poor reputation of the industry.
Please read - important - since this concerns Papua which will be sooner or later the next area fully "colonized" by oil palm plantations since Sumatra and Kalimantan have come too far into environmental focus
These are rather informative downloadable PDF files.
TITLE A: “An Agribusiness Attack in West Papua: Unraveling the Merauke Integrated Food and Energy Estate” published April 2012
awasmifee.potager.org/uploads/2012/03/mifee_en.pdf
TITLE B: "West Papua Oil Palm Atlas - The companies behind the plantation explosion" published May 2015
awasmifee.potager.org/uploads/2015/04/atlas-sawit-en.pdf
Please download and read if you are concerned and want to know more...
Well "zuckerde" you might call me an alarmist but Papua is still burning and while the local police commander there dared to tell the public that it was the indigenous population which did it.
An overlay of maps between those planned food estates and oil palm plantation and the areas now burning would reveal to you that it is exactly those spots on fire now.
It is a rather proven modus operandi by (Indonesian-owned) palm oil producers - not only used in their own country but interestingly also in some African countries where huge swathes of land have basically become in the last years nothing else than one giant oil palm plantation as far as the eye can see (and of course even further).
@Dr Gordon Freeman @zuckerde Indonesian agri-business companies have no rights planting oil palms or rice or sugar cane in West Papua, let alone burning West Papua's forests.
West Papua's forests are the capital of the West Papuans. West Papua's forests provide food, water, wood and shelter to West Papuans and it has been so for hundreds of generations.
Indonesians have invaded West Papua in 1962, and have turned it into colony ruled by brutal and racist security forces.
Immediate global boycott of palm oil will teach lesson of GDNEC (Gross Domestic Negative Externality Costs) and SMTP all greed based corporations and 1% greedy bastards that killing the earth for higher GDP of the rich won't be tolerated!
I think there should be a law, that any forest burned must be nurtured back, plant variety of trees, but not fruit bearing trees, the area will become state-owned & controlled & protected, no building of any kind allowed, just return the forest.
@Will56 "Should", indeed. Under any normal common sense concepts you are right. But in Indonesian government, there is no common sense. Only corruption and ignorance. And of course praying 5 times per day.
Dear Eddy Martono,
As GAPKI’s head of land and spatial division you have the responsibility to immediately release to the public the names of the entire GAPKI members (companies and owners) along with the satellite coordinates of their spatial boundaries. If you're innocent, PROVE it!
This haze is creating a lot of plots. Burial plots. It's not a plot against palm oil creating them, it is the manufacturers and growers of the product. If anyone deserves a plot, it is the fire starters and those that allowed it.
I do not and will not use palm oil. I will refuse and fried food in Indonesia. Hopefully, others will follow and make your reasons known to the grocers and restauranteurs. Boycotts can work to get a message out. Indonesian's who have a concern for their fellow citizens should lead a charge to send a message.
Here it's only called a smear campaign - but even the the proud Indonesian navy is facing just now something very similar A PLOT!
I'm quoting here Rear Admiral Achmad Taufiqoerrochman, commander of the Navy’s Western Fleet (which is meant to patrol the waters of the Malacca Strait to stop piracy) who just recently said in regards of the high number of reported piracy cases in the Malacca Strait - "...there must be a plot to make the Malacca Strait the most dangerous strait in the world..." As an example for the "plot" he states "...When a ship gets robbed or items on aboard are lost to theft [in the Malacca Strait by pirates], the shipping company files a report to an insurance company, in order to claim the insurance compensation. So the cases are not pure crimes, but there is something behind that, something that we should find out...” .
In both cases - Indonesian logic! ;-)
@Rustynails @Dr Gordon Freeman Another example, "People are not thankful for the oxygen produced in Indonesia". The statement was made by the VP. It was not made at the slip of mind. He keeps repeating it through years and sound proud of it. The most recent was when he was interviewed by a Malaysia journalist just a few days ago.
Join in our effort to fight the haze and prosecute those responsible https://www.facebook.com/groups/281939768572446/?fref=nf
@jakfan Very high in unhealthy saturated fats. Just use Google, plenty of medical studies on it.
@jakfan Yes, it is cheap, very nasty "junk" oil and is extremely unhealthy. Unfortunately it is used in many processed products because it is cheap. Many people look for it on labelling and steer clear of it these days.
No need to smear palm oil. Everyone knows that the forest fires were lit in areas that palm oil plantations want to plant and they will soon be plantations. It is against Indonesian law but the corrupt cops who Joko is too scared to proescute will be taking bribes as we speak for allowing it to happen. The Sumatran tiger and Borneo orang-utan will soon be extinct so consumers can have cheap palm oil to fry food in.
@LasemBenny:TheOriginal It is NOT against the law, and that is the big problem. The so-called "Smallholders" are explicitly allowed to do slash-and-burn, and encouraged to do so by the government. So the big Palm Oil companies give parts of their concessions to these "Smallholders", who then legally do all the burning. So when the big companies say that they are not doing any burning, they are not lying...A clever way of bypassing the law.
@smartsolution @LasemBenny:TheOriginal This is a loophole. Will the law be revoked soon?
That is just bullshit. It is chicanery of the worst order. If the smallholders are encouraged to burn by the government, then the government is breaking the spirit of the law. They are guilty of criminal conspiracy.
There is a very interesting map available on the net which displays well tree cover losses (in red) and gains (in blue) globally (were as the tree cover gain can be attributed to new palm oil tree plantations in Sumatra, Kalimantan and Malysia). Here's the link to the map:
www.globalforestwatch.org/map/7/2.42/99.53/ALL/grayscale/loss,forestgain?begin=2001-01-01&end=2015-01-01&threshold=30
One can zoom in to the areas of concern (e.g. Sumatra, Kalimantan). The very same map has also the option to show fires and can display other areas of interest.
As one can see on the image above - there is also already weed growing in the foreground. This land was freshly burned (possibly a couple of weeks before) but is NOT hot anymore. The haze which can be seen does not rise from this particular soil but possibly from a nearby fire.
Freshly burned wood (and peat) is the perfect natural initial fertilizer for new plants. It contains calcium, potassium, magnesium - the carbonates and oxides remaining after wood burning are valuable liming agents, raising the pH level, thereby helping to neutralize acid soils, as ...untouched peatland which has to be quickly and cheaply conversed to plantation land.
Does this industry prefer the word "nation killer" or "global killer?" We're certainly not going to feel sorry for you because you cant manage your plantations and dont understand the terms manslaughter, eco-side and accountability. We get that you understand the term profit, you traded the lives of human beings for it...
What a liar. On my travels around North Sumatra and Aceh, I have come across many massive areas, which were very recently burned and full of charred remains of trees, with freshly planted palm oil trees. He should get his a... out of his chair and go see for himself.
There is no smear campaign, only exposing the uncomfortable truth.
@smartsolution Yes, smartsolution, on my twice-per-month drive from the north of Sumatra to the south (and back) I have seen exactly (EXACTLY!) the same as you have - many times - recently just about 1.5 weeks ago.
@Dr Gordon Freeman @smartsolution There is so much overwhelming public evidence...videos, pictures, reports from highly respected NGOs etc. Yet this moron goes around saying it is all a smear campaign. I guess those criminals are really feeling the heat now and don't know what else to say anymore.
@smartsolution It is only a smear campaign when it is based on lies. Greenpeace and other concerned parties now have drone and satellite images to confirm their claims. It's harder to be a liar for the orang-utan killing palm oil industry in the age of satellite imagery!
